Thanks in advance! I am not familiar with it, but I will definitely some research. I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. I don't remember my protocol. 5 retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred on day 3, none froze, BFN. Bzeety- do you remember if you started on 300 iu's of Gonal-F? Woot woot!! I had 16 eggs, 10 mature and all 10 fertilized. Team Purple. For those of you unfamiliar, mini stim is for poor responders who don't have much luck in obtaining a large number of eggs. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Will I start to see the follicles and it's just too early?? Wegot completely different results at 43 I got 6 eggs mature eggs & 3 embryos. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). I'm on day 8 of stim meds and only have 1 follicle at 13, and 4 others under 9. Suite 1200 Canceled due to ovulation through Lupron. 1Frostie. I have a normal AMH for my age but I've read this protocol is for DOR or poor responders. Microdose lupron/micro flare lupron vs agonist-antagonist ivf protocol. Austin, Texas 78731, 16040 Park Valley Drive Building 1, Ste 201 Read Review Toronto Licence Claim Delta. <<7e73b458605e884a9eec5f5e9aeedda8>]>> At my age of 42, I am praying for more than 7 or 8 eggs and better quality for PGS testing. Only recently. Hello all, I need some feedback. The clinic I was with was horribly unorganized, I never saw my doctor, and dealing with insurance was a nightmare which made every, Looking for advice I havent heard good things and Im dreading it, worried its going to make me crazy and feel sick. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. Dont get discouraged. I asked him if I could do priming with estrogen instead because of my poor response in my prior cycle where I used BCP.I'm 41.5 yo, AMH 1.87. Did you change protocol? The first IVF we suppressed first with birth control pills and then did Gonal F. We got 3 eggs, two of which were mature. Thanks for the support. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. A Comparison of the Microdose Leuprolide Protocol vs. Luteal Phase Ganirelix Protocol in Women Who Are or Who Are Predicted to be Low Responders (LR) The safety and scientific validity of this study is the responsibility of the study sponsor and investigators. Can someone explain to me the difference in the protocols? Listing a study does not mean it has been evaluated by the U.S. Federal Government. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. 0000002919 00000 n ---- Siggy warning ------ Me 34 y/o DH 35 y/o IVF#1 (ICSI)-- April 2014-- MDL with BCP, 5R, 4 ICSID, 3dt with three embryos, 1 six-day freeze (2BA grade)-- BFN Pressing Forward Have the embryos tested for sure and if itdoesnt work out I will give you all the info for embryo adoption. Moving forward with CCRM in 2013 We started IVF due to MFI, i did a long lupron short stim cycle last month and it failed due to being a poor responder. Er 6- jan 2021- GH and estrace priming for 4 days. I'm going to talk to the doctor soon about our options. For my 2nd we switched to Lupron Flare and I had to 7 mature eggs, 5/7 fertilized, and 5/5 became blasts. My last two cycles resulted in only one embryo viable for testing which in the end were aneuploid. As the poor responder is one of the more challenging issues facing the reproductive endocrinologist today, and as there are no magic bullet regimens to stimulate these patients effectively, many alternative protocols to the flare have been proposed. Instead we are doing estrogen priming followed by microdose lupron. How long did you wait for next cycle? Overjoyed! I think so because I was usually stimming with 300 Follistim before, but I'll check. 0000000016 00000 n I was under the care of a reproductive immunologist and had been doing prednisone, tacrolimus, hydroxycloroquine, intralipids, and lovenox. Would estrogen priming be safe for a baby if I do happen to be pregnant? Good luck! HiI'm new. November IVF Protocol - DOR / LOW AMH / +40. Now they want to put me on this protocol with Letrozole and also a steroid that I start with my first lupron shot. I had 4 but 3 stopped growing around day 6 so they weren't frozen. I stimmed for like 15 days, got 5 eggs, 3 fert with icsi, all disintegrated basically, no blasts. Anyone want to join in a roll-call for late/Sept, early Oct IVFers? A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. Both my l, Short protocol or long protocol for older women. I replied to your original post, just wanted to say I'm glad you also posted over here to get more stories. I have my egg retrieval on Thursday & was curious if anyone had similar timing & wanted to be my buddy. You're on your 4th so you should have a lot of good info guiding your RE in this direction For me, I did 3 IUIs with 6 follies initially, then 4, then only 2, respectively, and on IVF#1 I had only 2 follies so we canceled and just did IUI, all of this BFN, and IVF#2 only had ONE follie which we did the ER w/ICSI and it didn't fertilize. An EPP for you. Now is the perfect time to start your Baby Registry! How do you recover from a failed IVF? Any advice is welcome! At 43 I see now looking back it truly is egg quality. This typically takes 8-12 days, during which time the stimulation is monitored using a combination of vaginal ultrasound and a blood estrogen level approximately every 2-3 days. All my cycles were at age 34. I'm almost 36 and have been TTC for 2.5 years. I did this protocol for my cycle. That said he did the exact same thing back to back and only got 4 and 1 abnormal blast. '13 Attempt at IVF #1 with Lurpon Flare- Canceled due to ovulation through Lupron.Sept. However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. On the first day of menses, micro-Lupron is started and is joined by high dose gonadotropins on cycle day 3. . Design: Retrospective, case-control study. Good luck! startxref It's not your first rodeo here." Significantly fewer eggs than follicles? I'm wondering if any Im struggling with responding to meds over 40. Second retrieval was agonist with lupron, and we ended up with two decent quality embryos (3BB, 4BB), one of which became my newborn daughter, who I am currently breastfeeding. EPP gave meFIVE- three CCS normal! I will never know if they were normal or not. Going with a microdose lupron protocol for my 2nd, starting on 11/30. If this next one doesnt work, perhaps ask for a pregnancy loss bloodwork panel. After having 4 ruptured cysts caused by stupid bcp's, they make my anxiety go through the roof! I'm 42 y/o and had my 2nd egg retrieval on 4/16. We did EPP for this last IVF (#4) and it was our best cycle by far. -DOR diagnosis. Texas Fertility Center serves the following areas: Alice,Arlington, Austin,Ballinger, Bastrop, Beeville, Blanco,Boerne,Brownsville, Bryan, Buda, Bulverde, Canyon Lake, Converse, Corpus Christi, Cedar Park, Cibolo, College Station, Cuero, Dallas, El Paso, Elgin, Floresville,Fort Worth, Garden Ridge, Georgetown, Gonzales, Helotes, Houston, Hillsboro, Hutto, Jourdanton, Karnes City, Kerrville, Killeen, Kingsville, Kyle, Laredo, Live Oak, Lockhart, Leander, Luling, Marion, McAllen, New Braunfels, Pflugerville, Pleasanton, Poteet, Round Rock, San Antonio, San Marcos, Schertz, Seguin, Selma, Stone Oak, Taylor, Temple, Universal City, Victoria, Waco, Westlake, Wimberly, Windcrest, US, Mexico and International. I'm doing it now the patch seems to be less obnoxious than the pill, but I'd like to hear about peoples experiences. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. I performed poorly with estrogen priming, so we are taking it out now.hsve you started stim? Aug. '13 Attempt at IVF #1 with Lurpon Flare- Canceled due to ovulation through Lupron. It's crazy how so much of it is trial and error. 2nd U/S @ 7w2d. You Will Mother. Did they give you a plan for your cycle yet? I go in for a check Thursday am. I'm sorry to hear about your 2 unsuccessful transfers. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Hi, I'm 40 did my first IVF in October with an antagonist protocol (AMH 4.86). 9 eggs retrieved, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 1 arrest on day 3, the other arrested on day 5. %PDF-1.4 % But after the estrogen my 3 follilces seemed to be more closely matched in size. I'm 36 & TTC 2 yrs. He's also prescribed microdose lupron, gonal, low dose hcg, and pregnyl. I'm trying to dig up information about stim doses (since Dr C says I'll still be on a lot of meds?) Called the flare, the microdose flare, or the low dose Lupron protocol, this regimen uses the same medications as the Lupron overlap protocol. 0000003240 00000 n October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. Jo, have you heard of the estrogen priming protocol? fast or irregular breathing. Vicodin(20 tabs),plus a refill x2(Did not refill/use) I badly want to be a mom. So we didnt biopsy & test then freeze. 2TFR'ed. :), I'm confused by all the information out there for women over 40. sometimes a bcp is used for this same purpose. Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! My first two cycles yielded one lousy frozen each. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. I do believe the MIcrodose Flare P is the way to go for women older with fewer eggs. Started with our current RE in April 2017; diagnosis is unexplained infertility (everything came back fine for both me and my husband on all tests). Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. When I picked up my meds today, and the guy told me which to refrigerate, he then quickly said "oh ya, you already know that. i.really hope.that this year brings me some.good.news..thanks.for sharing your story. Fraternal girls born Dec 2010 2011 Dec-Natural BFP M/C at 8.5 wks 2012 Dec-Natural BFP . I have no idea if that's true but it gave me hope and made me feel better. Had two follicles but one disappeared day of egg retrieval. Oestrogen primed micro dose lupron protocol - here you take oestrogen 7 days after you ovulate and stop when you get your AF. I did microflare lupron after being diagnosed with elevated FSH. While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to . In patients with low egg reserve, this combination may exert . I am just terrified it will be like my last cycle. 0000009528 00000 n We've been trying for 3 years. Thanks all, I really appreciate all of you in this forum. Been feeling lonely lately as friends and family are getting pregnant around me (even friends who also struggled with fertility issues), so looking for somewhere else to hopefully find people to connect with. So I don't have anything to add but I'll be watching you;-). So, yes, you can have better results the second time around and I really hope thats true for you! My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. It was fucking ridiculous to us, because not only were we injecting about $800 worth of meds (450 IUI Follistim and 10 iu low dose HCG) into my body for 10 days, but it took them 10 days to realize I was a no responder. It is quality that matters. Each month is different and that 4 eggs could have been just an off month and not a predictor of your future cycles. Good luck! I have a quick question for the veterans. ), I didn't do EPP, but am saying good luck! (My clinic requires ICSI and PGS testing for all patients). In summary, ovarian stimulation is a very complex process. October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. 3 were mature, and only one fertilized. Then my friend hadsuccess with Micro dose lupron flareprotocol so I asked my dr to put me on the exact same one. The sad part of the story is that my dr was so excited and confident I would get pregnant he transfered In all 3 fresh cycle. I just finished day 4 of gonal, microdose and letrozole. 0000017388 00000 n With IVF#2, we did MDL. That's amazing and.congratulations. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Thanks! Ive been priming for transfer for 11 days and Im only at 6.7mm. I'm about to start a ton of supplements my nurse suggested to me. She has already been prescribing me an aggressive protocol (microdose Lu, So a little bit about me. This medicine reduces the amount of testosterone in men or estrogen in women. (I did not use a lot of what was ordered.) Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. 11 mature. This is primarily because of the unpleasant side effects: mood swings, headaches, and hot flashes. Your nurse will phone you with instructions by 5:00PM this day. I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). Femara-Antagonist Protocol. They are concerned about egg quality. G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 07/23 - Injection #1 8 days of stims and I had 1 lead follicle and 2 other measurable ones. They are concerned about egg quality. My new protocol is Estrogen Priming Antagonist. . What should we try that we haven't already? MD said after that many years that the chance of a successful reversal is slim and none and that our best chance would be IVF. trouble breathing. Short protocol for low responders We have discussed GnRH agonists as a suitable treatment for low responders. Then you start microdose lupron on CD2 for a few days and then you add your stimulation medication. I think I am most excited that I did NOT have to take bcp's! Lap 2/15. :) But after my horrible #2 cycle, knowing I really would probably only do one more I gave it all I had for three-four months. I feel sort ofdetachedI didn't expect to feel this emotion, and I'm sure it will shift, but.who knows. I will access my frozen eggs in.june hopefully. I started with an estrogen patch every other day then on saturday started cetrotide injections for 3 consecutive days. I do have mild DOR and respond poorly to stims. How many days do you take menopur for IVF? What did do when you had a cancelled IVF cycle? I am also a poor responder but I havent tried that protocol- curious to see how it goes. Only got 1 mature egg and embryothat didnt make it. The nurses at my clinic are suggesting the following schedule: Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. I recently suffered a miscarriage at 7 weeks. MENTS In 2019 I miscarried & has a D&C because my doctors, nurses & even friends who had the same situation said to get the D&C. My E2 never soared like some women'son the day of my trigger my E2 was only 1563, but I still got 16 eggs. some people think that a bcp suppresses some women too much and so a epp is used instead. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. They said I would, I just completed a second round of IVF/ICSI. MENTS..I am now 17 wks pg from that cycle. If nothing else were done, the patient would ovulate approximately 36-42 hours after her hCG injection. I dont want to keep trying protocols and not succeeding. Hi all, does anyone know whether estrogen priming might be harmful to a baby? Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Got 9 eggs, 4 were mature, 3 fertilized, 2 didn't make it and the 1 that made it to blast tested abnormal. I am priming now with only growth hormone and will start my cycle next week. More about us: [CLC] Can the use of Femara for 5 days with stimulants hurt the egg quality? That is the reason why we are doing IVF. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. numbness or tingling of the hands or feet. Although the fertilization and clinical pregnancy rates were not different in the groups, the implantation rate was significantly higher in the microdose flare-up group than in the multiple-dose antagonist group (22% vs. 11%). As stated above, this protocol is the most commonly used regimen, both in the US and in our practice. 0000009011 00000 n 600mg Ibprofin(sp?) 2TFR'ed. My husband and I started trying in December of 2015, and when coming off of my birth control, I never got my period. A couple of things to keep in mind with MDL, I started with a AFC of 7 (pretty average for me) and for the first several days of stimming (5 at least) there were only 7-8 growing and my E2 was super low. Corpus Christi, TX 78413. I hate long stims. Adding Cetrotide. The use of Lupron to trigger egg maturation over the past 4-5 years has gained popularity when given in a single higher dose (4mg) with aggressive supplementation of estrogen and progesterone following the egg retrieval. 3. Wow so why cant u access your frozen eggs? While many studies to evaluate the effectiveness of these additional medications have been conducted, there are unfortunately very few definitive conclusions that have been reached. 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