whitcomb and shaftesbury classic bespoke

I cant afford full Savile Row or top Neapolitan prices for my bespoke fetish, so I first read this review with great interest. Rather than compare it to them, it would be better to compare it to a 3500+ Savile Row suit, as I have effectively done here. Worth stating again perhaps that no judgments on fit should be made from photos. Hi Simon See how much you wear it and what you enjoy about it, at least for a while. And no, it wouldnt be vastly different from KH&L, More importantly, for that price range this is certainly the best value suit out there, and it sounds like one that would suit your style as well. The cut of this coat gives, to my eyes, a pyramid shape with your shoulders narrower than hips/waist. A little drape like Henry Poole uses is fine, but not more. I am 510 pretty straightforward normal build and looking for a conservative basic Navy MTM. She corrected my trousers and identified there was an issue straight away. The suit was very large in the shoulders, it had no shape in the body, but the first fitting is for the tailor, so I left it to her to do her job and I had lost some weight. Cheers. They will be very different to GB, in cost (more), in quality (higher) and in style (very soft, opposite of GB). Just a suggestion! Wondered if you had any thoughts ? Thats a really great question, and very useful experiences of bespoke too. Whitcomb Shaftesbury -Bespoke. Hi, I specifically dont want to blame either as certainly most clients are quite satisfied. Yes, Edward is more dramatic and youll find the drape style more comfortable during the day at work too. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. Great service and advice. For sewing the shirt you can choose the following fabrics: poplin, jacquard, oxford, twill, pinpoint or herringbone. The entire team was excellent and I await the return of their overseas visits. As ever a brief article on this subject would be highly appreciated! new to bespoke), but i would certainly be interested to know more about 1) what to realistically expect from bespoke, and 2) how to get the most from the process. Our coats are fully handmade with floating canvases. What I also find interesting and perhaps would be an interesting point of discussion with a tailor is that even though my right shoulder drops, I dont think my right armhole should be lower. W&S was at about the same price point without the extra trousers for a super 100 9/10 oz made in seven weeks in India. Bravo! So basically I will be sad 4 days a week for a while! As far as London-based bespoke tailors go, the house has gained an impressive reputation for quality in recent years, with rave reviews from the likes of Permanent Style. Hi Simon. And a pair of flannel trousers? And often they vary in service depending on who does the outfitting. I can understand why some people dont want a suit where any of it is made abroad. B) I think its worth avoiding where possible. Gone for a nice navy classic worsted. W&S seem to be a interesting chaps.. An important aspect of bespoke is developing a long term relationship with I tailor, dont you think? Whitcomb & Shaftesbury offer two types of service: both cut and fitted in London, but one mostly made in India ('Classic Bespoke') the other made in London ('Savile Row Bespoke'). Being at ease doing this is why people talk a lot about the importance of relationship in bespoke too. From the H&S Classic Worsteds bunch do recall if this was the navy, dark navy or midnight? However even though we probably buy the same brands (and silks) my four-in-hand tends to come out smaller and less tilted. Thanks, and great suggestions. How do you find out whether a certain off row tailor is really good? All garments are cut and made in workshops in the west end of London. thanks! And quality is quality, no matter where its sourced. Many have looked at his handwork and been amazed, more so when they hear about his prices. Got it, thanks. I just wonder if for something traditional and rarer like morning dress they would be able to help guide me through the process as well as A&S. i.e. Fashion Designer - Whitcom & Shaftesbury Several top brands including Dunhill, Gieves & Hawkes, and Ozwald Boateng offer this service. I think there is often a risk with bespoke that people expect perfection, and everything to have been considered for them, when it is more interactive, and does have most benefits over time. Like all English pretty much, its just too sharp and structured. More than Poole, but less than A&S. The pleat on the trouser is quite shallow which makes it not functional. Predominantly a Savile Row style or do they stray into Neapolitan construction as well? This kind of service level is something that can quickly drop out with cheaper offerings. and lovely to talk to. I hope someday to access (and afford) some pure Neapolitan tailoring but in our globalized world, even from a post-modern perspective purity is a questionable concept regardless. Simon I live in Geneva but get over to London at least once a year sometimes up to 3 times a year although never with any great predictability. He values fit above everything, but as he does all the work himself, it is a very easy relationship. And would the W&S offshore bespoke offering be vastly different in quality from a from a fully bespoke suit from someone like KH&L? Is it sailing, sailing, or the way to new horizons? 192 following. I also havent asked about those kind of changes, so Im not sure. Cloth: Holland & Sherry, Classic Worsteds, 12/13oz. The strange thing is that this occurs in three different suits from 2 different makers with 3 fittings each. Interesting to see how well a lime tie works too; I wouldnt have considered that. From what Ive read on your blog and others, I think W&S are the superior tailor and Id rather compromise my style and get a better quality suit. It is as good in cut as most other Savile Row suits, and almost as good in make. I particularly like the drama of Edward Sexton cuts in subtle fabrics, similar to your grey flannel suit. ), Simon if you have any influence on this company (and I suppose you do in a way because clearly they wanted you see their quality and write something about it) for the love of God make them hire somebody who redoes their website. Every aspect of the garment from the fabric to the style is customized and tailored for your unique body. Yes, it would be just as acceptable (and in the same way, a little showy). Both Suresh and Mahesh will be touring the U.S. between November 16 and December 1, visiting New York, Washington D.C., Boston, Los Angeles and then returning to New York. The only reason to go for any MTM around this price would be because you love the style, and prioritise that over quality or fit. Drakes MTM program is priced only slightly above its RTW, so its something Ive wondered about a lot as I try and build my own tailoring wardrobe, especially of softer styles. Im attracted to the Classic Bespoke offering from W&S for a wedding suit but think I favour two button and slightly stronger shoulders. These Tailors Are Doing It Anyway. Much more Italian style, soft and more curved. Not necessarily if youll use it a lot it could be lovely. Whitcomb actually offers two services one partially made by this Indian workshop (wholly owned by them) and one by a normal Row tailor. I am unsatisfied considering GB is 850 but their forte is not in this style of tailoring. Quite pleased with my first classic bespoke suit from W&S. The quality of his work surpasses anything I have had from the Row, or any of the big name French or Italian tailors often named here. I also expect that you may receive favorable treatment in many instances, possibly skewing the actual standard of service. Apologies if this is an obvious question. As a far-flung western Canadian from the provinces, Im not at all put off by the cheaper W & S option of having the finishing done in fellow former Commonwealth colony India; on the contrary, especially with their dedication to good training, fair trade, good wages, etc, I find this option not only economically attractive but also ethically admirable. Id always recommend that you stick to a tailors house style as much as possible. But when in 1760 Read More. Hi Jon, Quite affordable at $500/600 trousers. I hesitate to say Whitcomb have done something wrong, as my experience and that of others has been so good, but that sounds like the most likely conclusion. B.) They certainly could, and Id say you should expect at least two fittings ideally three (with the last one being with a finished suit, but something small needs to be tweaked always a good idea to get that tweak, painful as it may be! Im sure youve mentioned it elsewhere but which of the Neapolitan tailors are you thinking of in particular? The width here is 3.75 inches. No it would look good without a tie. How would you compare them to Tim Everest or C&D for MTM in terms of quality and value? Wonderful site! The coatmaker, Bob, is also coming on trips that John isnt. I havent had a suit or jacket made in a while. Hi Ethan, Looks like ink blue solid from H&S classic worsted? The lap seam is very much a bit of style flair and is probably worth doing without on your first suit. Whitcomb also recruited a third, younger cutter, Sian Walton, formerly of Thom Sweeney, Alexander McQueen and Kilgour. Trousers are made entirely by hand, with hand-sewn curtained waistbands. I really like the concept of this certainly a product with much more soul than your average MTM suit. Ie price including VAT is GBP 1362. Its old Kilgour, closest to A&S probably. And great work on the site, a unique and reliable resource! There isnt necessarily a third fitting, but there will usually be one or two small things that its worth refining if its your first suit. Thanks and all the best, Michael. I question, upon reflection, if you can go to Spain and Italy (and India via W & S) might we see a time when you take into consideration the many fine UK tailors at points outside of London. I dont think W&S has any different margins to other bespoke tailors. I hope you do not mind me mentioning, but I noticed that you also have a new piece in work with them and that it has been made in a toile initially. Is your W&S suit cuted with a similar amount of drape or more? Simon what is your experience with Rubinacci in London? Similarly for General Eyewear, great guys and i am very happy with the end result. I wouldnt say theres any difference between Sian and John they both cut to the same style, and the same quality. Were lucky that our workshop allows us to turn fittings around for clients relatively quickly while keeping total control of quality, Suresh explains. Your website is an amazing read. But different to an A&S drape cut, and very different to anything French or Italian. I wouldnt go if you want that strong shoulder, no. I assume she was one of the people that fitted you? English style in mens clothing England has always been one of the poles of mens fashion along with Italy. They wont move the button or buttonhole, but they might open the shoulder seam and pick one side up slightly. Because theyre made specifically for each customer, they also tend to fit better than store-bought suits. And no, I dont think its appropriate for business. They look very good and suit your face and style, Francois Pinton, though I wouldnt necessarily recommend them based in make. Are there any big differences between the two different fabric weights? I might someday soon be able to have a quality bespoke suit as this falls within my budget. Thanks! Hi Simon, To give some context, i am early 30s and now have the income to dabble with a few bespoke pieces; so far, this suit and spectacles from General Eyewear (selected based on reviews on your site, thanks!). Although given how many issues tailors have had over the past 30 years (particularly changing business models or cutters so youre relationship goes out the window) I think theyve got as much chance of staying around as anyone. Black mens jeans: how to choose and with what to wear? Thanks as always, In London, just them and city tailors like Graham Browne. The cut is lovely and lean, with the suppression of the waist accentuating the sharp style we were going for single button, more open foreparts, unflapped pockets, plus that lap seam of course. Is sufficient to have the master coatmaker in the fittings or you absolutely need to see the cutter? A.) Its just that if any bespoke tailor spent as much as designer brands on marketing, advertising, shops etc, theyd be 50% more expensive. I have large shoulders, am tall and have a relatively slim waist, but dont feel comfortable looking bigger. You could also look at Kent Haste & Lachter, who would be more similar to that style. Hi Lewis, The little things are not decisive, they decide everything, said the popular actor Harvey Read More, A Detailed Guide to Savile Row suit for Men The company with more than 200 years of history began as a uniform company for the military. Should the button and buttonhole align when the jacket is unbuttoned? Good suits can look terrible; bad ones good. Bespoke suits are custom-Made suits that are tailor-made to fit the specific measurements of the person ordering them. Having few things made by by Whitcomb now, would you recommend them for a first bespoke suit ? As there are no buttons and buttonholes on the fittings, I couldnt detect this issue. It gets made for a lot of weddings. It seems to have a bit of drape, and the shoulders arent too military? This looks perfect! On the style questions, eg pockets, have you looked through the Suit Style series of posts? This is something most tailors dont do, but you do occasionally see it used on particularly soft or lightweight cloths. I have a coat in a pale wool that perhaps could have looked like a toile? hi Simon, very interesting article. That pocket square fold is on point. I mentioned it as a collar gap to Zizolfi after the first one and we thought we had resolved it at the fitting but when I wore it a couple of times, I saw the same issue again. Looking forward to know your thoughts. Perhaps a little collection of posts around the issue would be good. Do you see this as suitable for business, or not so much? I wouldnt prioritise that over a colour of cloth I preferred, for example. Londons Best New Tailors Arent on Savile Row. I think Im inclined to forego my preferences in that case! When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. What am I missing? I guess its about having the knowledge and confidence to get the most out of them and the process. At the same time, I wouldnt want to be impolite and ask them to do something entirely different compared to their usual cut. P.S. Thanks The same cutter and coatmaker (John McCabe and Bob Bigg) managed the making of both. Richard. Apologies if these are ignorant questions, but this will be my first foray into bespoke (thanks to the amazing information youve provided on this website)! Thanks for your reply Simon. How would you compare W&S to Steven Hitchcock based on style and quality? I had suits made in both, in order to compare them. Tim Everest offered a 10/11oz super 120 fabric for 1450+VAT with full canvas and extra trousers done in six weeks at a factory in Czech. The finishing on the lining isnt quite as neat but as you can see on the images above, its still good. Also , Its great that you still bring your expertise to clothes within a lower price bracket .sometimes I think were losing you to the luxury market a little too much . I must say that I sincerely couldnt be more pleased. After all, people happily walk into Canali and hand over 1500 for factory made MTM suits from a block pattern I would expect to pay much closer to 2k for a bespoke product like this (which even then is still a cracking deal). Even in todays culture of instant gratification, a large majority of the worlds best-dressed men still go to the effort and expense of having their clothes custom-made. One thing I worry about is whether their business model and pricing is viable in the long term. 11 St. George Street is a throwback to more elegant times. And the buttonholes have had a machine stitch on the back as a guide, before being finished by hand. Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain, my post on the bespoke service at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Simonnot-Godard via Mes Chaussettes Rouges, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury RAF-blue suit: Style Breakdown, Artisan of the Year 2021: Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Edward Sexton offshore bespoke tailoring. Outstanding blog, Simon. Its when the cutter is never present that you really have to worry. Every hem and lining felled by hand, buttonhole sewn with silk and trouser hand-sewn with curtained waistbands. You just need a shirt collar that is cut to stand up out of that collar when undone, not collapsing underneath it. Good point, and I assume you mean 1632 with VAT. Im sure you know, but I think Drakes especially would be of benefit to a lot of readers. . W&S will still be more formal than pretty much anything Vergallo will produce. Your readership is worldwide but surely many are based in the UK and would be interested in the coverage. Simon, have you tried a MTM service such as MyTailor in the United States? 2. After reading your reviews, I am definitely considering the W&S Classic Bespoke offering. The workshop is a cooperative, so all the tailors own part of the company, and we guarantee full salaries for all our staff, rather than paying piece work. Whitcomb also pays for the education of all its employees children and the brothers have established an additional scheme that rehabilitates women who are either victims of trafficking or at high risk. Cloth - Suits Read More Artisan of the Year 2021: Whitcomb & Shaftes. I have however been following this W&S post with interest as I use to use Kilgours semi bespoke service 10+ years ago. Can you confirm the exact fabric for reference if it is navy rather than the mid blue the photographer has managed to make it look like? Or would it be too structured? I am new to London and to tailored suits and so have been reading your site obsessively. Would you recommend high rise or mid rise? I have checked them out however note that: Thanks for your blog Simon! Graham Browne is GBP 1050 INCLUDING VAT, ie the difference in price is GBP 500, not 300 as stated in the comments. Great width and shape of the lapels with a nice roll, and well balanced gorge (dont you think the modern gorge placement is too high?). And if the Italians with their inherent expressiveness dress brightly, boldly Read More, Mens accessories: the image of a man It is undeniable that the image consists of details. Are there any other tailors in the Milan/Northern Italy area that I should consider as well, that would be great starting points to the high-end bespoke world? I have got two questions which I think a lot of people toil with. I tried them at home but was not convinced, so i went back in and saw a third fitter (not sure where they get people from when John is not available) who agreed they were too baggy, and alterations were appropriately made. At Maison Bonnet, for example, the process would be a lot more involved. One of the reasons rate Whitcomb is the presence of cutter John McCabe. For years, we had our suits made, explains Suresh, and we both felt that you could find good product, but it was a struggle to find good advice. No, not necessarily. Its nice in a sports coat, but frankly its not one I would wear with denim. Updated: Dec 14, 2021. Thats the reason why I considered W&S, but I dont like the drape cut. I am considering the Classic Bespoke option for my first bespoke commission. Apparel & clothing. Can you recommend me some affordable tailors in london? Do listen to the tailor when you talk about it as well. Subscribe to RR1 Live+ for exclusive virtual events all year long (at least 1 per month), conversations with Robb Report editors, special perks, and more. There is a lot of confusion about the difference between tailored and bespoke. I ask because W&S have offered me the option of seeing Sian initially and then having John do the pattern and fitting later, but my instinct says it would make more sense to have the same person doing both. Im all for casting a wider net but lets keep it in the round. Are there any similar services like the Huntsman 100 from other savile row tailors you would recommend? We wanted to do things the right way, Suresh continues. Ill reflect more on the overall style of Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, and where it sits relative to other tailors I have tried, when I publish the pictures of the Savile Row Bespoke suit. Bespoke suits are thus more expensive and take longer to produce, but they will provide you with a better fit than a custom suit ever could. Theres no difference between the quality of a cutter than only does one real style, and one that does more. I guess this is relevant to the greatest number of people in the context of a bespoke suit, and it would great to know what are the key points that should be thought about (choice of cloth etc.). Have you read my post on the margins of bespoke generally? Most are closer to the 1000 make and finish, but simply charge twice as much. ), That means 3-4 visits for the first suit. Your comments in the discussion are helpful in triangulating their merits. Yes, I would recommend them for a first suit. Since I am attempting to avoid the common pitfalls of my first bespoke suit, I am going to get a mid-grey or charcoal suit that could be a great suit to wear for work throughout the year. And hands out of pockets do allow a superior view of cut and style.. nice one. which is better in your opinion? Hi Simon. The Classic Bespoke follows the same fitting process as our Savile Row Bespoke. Now, the brand is returning to America for the first time in over two years, as are many British artisans. The only thing youd be looking for is a difference in execution and there are some tiny points there. It does not matter if WS are getting some part of the work done in India, the suit looks fantastic in the photos. Edge tapes, hems and linings are completely felled by hand. Simon. When buttoning I believe this creates a line along the right side of the jacket and most importantly pushes the collar up and it doesnt stay flush to my neck. The jacket theyve made me has jumped immediately into top place as both my best fitting AND most casually comfortable piece of clothing: the shoulders are just what I wanted, even softer (much softer) than in the suit jacket; there remains, despite the soft structure, a bit of English drape that I love in the chest; and really its the waist that is absolutely sublime a perfect pinch, fitting me so well between the arm holes and waist; most of all, the skirt is truly the most beautiful Ive worn in a jacket, with even the snifter-shaped patch pockets perfectly proportioned for its exquisite lines. Apr 11, 2018 - Whitcomb & Shaftesbury final suit - great value bespoke. I am fine with the amount of chest drape in their house style but would like to see slightly stronger shoulders and a bit more roping. Still strikes me as cracking value though. Our coats are fully handmade with floating canvases. Did the tailoring being done on the subcontinent mean that the suit took longer to make compared to their S. Row Bespoke? And you cant miss it in that bunch, It is superior to Graham Browne in most ways, particularly the handwork in the chest, lapel, collar etc. I was able to travel to London to meet Sian for the basted fitting. Yes, shes been a cutter for about 10 years. Vergallo doesnt get enough attention they remain excellent value. I understand there a differences in style obviously. Thansk, Yes, although they are differences, such as less drape, leds of an extended shoulder. Was planning to do so with W&S during their next trunk show. Hi Simon, I know comparing tailors from Italy and England is like comparing apples and pears (style wise), but just from a quality perspective how would you compare Sartoria Vergallo to this W&S offering? Apr 11, 2018 - Whitcomb & Shaftesbury final suit - great value bespoke. Following on from my previous questions, I would just like to say that I commissioned a Classic Bespoke Suit from W&S for my wedding day, cut by Sian in a dark navy Holland and Sherry 9 1/2oz Mohair. (In my case I am interested in Connock & Lockie, Lambs Conduit Street but I am open to other suggestions..). This is great to know. Id pick between the two on style more than anything else. Free shipping for many products! Great thank you very much! 829 posts. Alex Natt. Their classic bespoke service, which involves cutting the suit in London (by a very experienced Row cutter), and then having it largely made in India (in a workshop run by a Row tailor) promised fantastic value at 1350 + VAT for a suit. Through that program, weve rehabilitated over 7,000 women, says Suresh. This one, or good value english tailors (for example grahame browne)? Some advice if you would; Im looking to get a suit (tan cord) garment dyed thinking blue, dark green or dark grey (not to be worn for work). Thanks Simon. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. I always try and relax and dont rush my fittings. Keep up the good work! Free shipping for many products! Really like the balance and proportions of this particular suit, perhaps it would be worthy of a style breakdown sometime? I chose the Holland and Sherry 892004 slate blue Harris tweed and plunged in. Thank you for your help and the great website. Thank you for getting back to me. Not for anything approaching a Neapolitan cut Stuart, no. Any thoughts as to where I might find one? No its certainly worth asking, but do try to be specific in what you would like. A Graham Browne suit and a Huntsman suit are traditional, structured English suits. 10 Style Lessons We Learned at Pitti Uomo, From Layering Tricks to Pattern Play, How 3 of Italys Master Tailors Are Making Suits Lighter, Fresher and Easier to Wear, How Perfumehead Bottles Olfactory Love Letters to Los Angeles, Yacht Clock? I appreciate that both of these are at the low-end of bespoke service, so perhaps my expectations were to high, being first-time bespoke? Wempe Teamed Up With Boatbuilder Tim Heywood to Make Two Limited-Edition Marine Chronometers, Rimowa Unveils a New, More Organized Pilot Case for Your Next Short-Haul Trip, The Best-Dressed Men of the SAG Awards, From Eddie Redmayne to Austin Butler. But then youre paying over twice the price. . Hi Sam One of your best suits in my opinion! If the later, have you seen any examples? Between them, this trio can bring to bear a huge range of different skills. I look forward to reading about your experience in the near future. Thanks for the response What is your view towards a staple in soft suiting in regards to lining and canvassing Half/quarter lined whilst Thin Half/minimal canvassing? 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